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GM: Eight-Speeds on the Way
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GM: Eight-Speeds on the Way


New gearboxes being studied.
by Joseph Szczesny (2007-10-15)


2008 Chevrolet Corvette


General Motors isn't giving away any of the specifics just yet, but it does have a seven- and even an eight-speed automatic transmission tucked away in its product development cycle.



Jim Lanzon, executive director of GM Powertrain's Transmission Engineering, acknowledged last week GM is looking at the transmissions that have begun showing up on luxury models such as the BMW M5.



"I can't give away any new product news but we're looking at everything," he said.



One of the issues GM is wrestling with now is whether a seven- or eight-speed transmission will produce the kind of gains in fuel economy that would justify the cost of engineering them into a vehicle, Lanzon said.



"There is more to making a seven- or eight-speed transmission than adding more modules. You've got to be concerned about the parasitic losses that neutralize the fuel-economy gains," he said.



Lanzon emphasized GM already has the skills needed to put a seven-speed or eight-speed transmission into production very quickly and at relatively low cost. In the past four years, GM, with the aid of computerized tools, has launched nine new six-speed transmission models. In the past, GM would spend a decade developing three or four new transmissions.


The new technology utilized by GM has shaved as much as six months and $15 million from the typical development of a transmission, Lanzon said. The technology also saved the company more than $100 million during the latest development cycle, which has put six-speed transmission in everything from the Chevrolet Corvette to mid-size crossover vehicles, he said.



The technology also has helped boost the quality and dependability of the new units, which have had few changes, Lanzon said. Not only are the costs down, but the quality has improved, he said.



Lanzon said GM's transmission engineers are using sophisticated math modeling, among other advanced tools, to not only design the transmission components, but also to predict and test their reliability, analyzing functions such as oil pressure and flow, lubrication distribution and shift quality.
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By rauchy on 10-16-2007, 07:16 am
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I feel pre-historic.

The first car in 46 years of marriage that had an automatic was in our S class M-B, and then only because it was only available with an automatic and I had lusted after the car for years. (What a mistake that was, but that's another story).

But now we also own an H2 that my wife drives. She gave up a manual transmission Jeep Grand Cherokee for that. She is happy, but like me is still desirous of a manual transmission.

My Z06 and my Dodge 1500 are manual, and they are the ones I drive almost always. I just like being able to shift smoothly, and to be able to pick my own gears. But as time goes on it is becoming almost impossible to find cars we would like to drive with manual transmissions. We know people that can't even drive a stick shift.

I may be wrong, but I have never had a repair required on a manual transmission. I think they are more reliable. I think an automatic, especially the older ones that used to downshift going up an interstate overpass make a car nothing more than an appliance and certainly do nothing to make the driver feel a part of the process.

Automatics do allow folks to yak on the cell phone and to apply makeup. Automatics do allow trucking companies to hire clerks from the local convenience store and make them road warriors in semis. Automatics allow people with zero coordination to drive like Mario Andretti. But a manual transmission, well driven is what makes a car enthusiast a car enthusiast.

Maybe I'm just out of touch.
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By Itshakes on 10-16-2007, 08:22 am
Exclamation Manual / automatic

Yes Sir! Right On! I couldn't have said it better!
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By rauchy on 10-16-2007, 12:02 pm
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Thanks.....I got to thinking it was just me and my archaic thinking.
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By Itshakes on 10-16-2007, 12:23 pm
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One of the reasons we bought a manual in our 96 LT4 is there was no other choice. Back in 1967 we faced the same decision-Our 350 HP-327 was only available with a 4 speed manual. Then in 1981 we found out that 81 was the last year for a 4 speed-so we ordered one. My wife and I always enjoyed driving a manual-and our two sons learned how to drive with a manual. I think it adds to the enjoyment of driving these cars-I love to hear the mechanical sounds of the transmission and engine when accelerating through the gears.
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