Need a history run for z06 I am looking at Wed.

[froggy47]

A 2004 z16

1g1yy12s345122692

Indicates about 18,000 miles.

Recalls/wrecks/etc?

Thanks.

[ChuckG]

Don't count on CarFax, despite their ads, their fine print only lists what's reported to a state agency, etc. Dealer systems will have more info, if you can find the servicing dealer and a kind sole...

From the ethically-challenged folks at CarFax:

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When a CARFAX report lists a car as "clean," this refers to the fact that no branded or problem titles (lemon law, salvage, junk, flood damaged, rebuilt, reconstructed, exceeds mechanical limits, or not actual miles) were found in this vehicle's past.

This also refers to the absence of an odometer rollback as indicated by the odometer readings on our report.

This does not mean that this car does not have prior damage due to accident or mechanical flaws. Please keep in mind that CARFAX does not physically inspect any of the vehicles that appear in our database. In fact, we specifically state on every CARFAX report, "Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car." CARFAX would be incapable of disclosing a vehicle's damage unless that information was provided to CARFAX by one of our data sources.

Carfax seeks to provide as much information as possible about the history of the vehicle in order to help buyers and sellers of used vehicles make better decisions.

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In the Title section of the report we state:
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The Other Information section of our report mentions:
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In this same section we note “No accidents reported to CARFAX.” We do not state no accidents, we highlight that no accidents were reported to CARFAX.

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[froggy47]

Thanks.

[c4c5specialist]

The warranty history indicates a lower coolant hose, left door weatherstrip and the recall for the washers was done.
Very low warranty records for this car.
Allthebest,

[froggy47]

Thanks Paul, I bought it.

:)

[BruceF]

Congratulations on your 'new' car. :-)

[froggy47]

Thanks

File pic.

Just like this one.

[ChuckG]

So, after CarFax denied responsibility to tell consumers what their ads claim they will, I get this via email today:

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Looks like I'm not alone thinking they sell something they don't deliver!